This is the perfect starter saddle for a young rider or someone wanting to start English without the significant investment of many saddles. This saddle, while older, is a quality saddle. This 16.5″ Crump Classic Close Contact saddle is perfect for 4H or flat classes, but has a forward flap with knee blocks so will work to pop over some jumps. Forward set flap at 13″, but not too forward. 5″ Medium Wide gullet with a wider challenge and not quite an A framed tree, perfect for a more typical built QH type horse. Very short panel at 18″, foam flocked. This saddle has all new billets all the way around! Shows some use, with some nicks around the cantle, some scratches, but all minor and all cosmetic. Well cared for and is just so affordable! This is a nice starter saddle, a way to try English without the huge investment, or even a quality lesson saddle!